Europeans: Why would you never move to the US? US Citizens: Why would you never move to europe?

1. As the walking Dutch stereotype I am, I really like my bike. Being able to bike basically everywhere I need to is something I really appreciate about where I live. And while there are probably some towns in the US that are bicycle friendly, I've heard that none are even close to the Netherlands. Also my family is here but pff, they're not important.
   — Tijmenking


2. Have lived in both over the years. There are pros/cons to both sides of the pond. Pros for US: - Much easier to own a home. (Really! As much as some people over here might laugh at a statement like that, houses are *really* expensive in a lot of countries overseas.) - Higher wage ceiling - Cheaper prices for a lot of things like electronics - More convenient to own and operate a car Pros for Europe/UK: - Healthcare costs are ridiculously lower, even adjusted for taxes - Better public transportation (easier due to the smaller distances, of course) - Higher wage floor and average standard of living in most places (although London and some other cites are very expensive) - Lower violent crime in general - More yearly vacation/sick days (additional, sick days are separate from vacation and don't eat into it!) - MUCH better internet. Holy crap, it's not even close. Despite people saying EU/UK taxes are so much higher than the US, that perception is really not very accurate. When you factor in health insurance and the combination of both federal and state taxes, my effective tax + healthcare rate in the US has been notably higher than when I lived overseas. Having to file US taxes/FBAR stuff while living overseas is really a royal pain in the ass. This is slightly offset by the fact that European countries have figured out that having a giant "gotcha" process for taxes is a total waste of time. They just send you a bill if you owe something and a refund if you don't. You double-check what they send you, don't have to file anything. Yay! (Really wish the US would adopt a system like this...) For day-to-day living, I honestly don't find there to be a huge difference. Overall, if I didn't have to deal with US taxes overseas, it's probably a lot better financially until you get to some high-earning wage range. Unless you live somewhere really expensive like London. It's more the same than it's not, at least for most of Europe. There is a lot of cultural diversity due to languages and different counties involved, though. So that's not really a blanket statement. I think for the "average" person, living overseas is generally easier with a higher standard of living and less worry, more vacation time, and generally less chance to get totally screwed. If you have a high paying job in the US and get lots of vacation time and a upper-end wage, living in the US is potentially nicer due to the lower costs, more space, etc. Edit: Better formatting.
   — GameDesignerDude


3. I'm a citizen of both the UK & USA & it's not that I'd never move to Europe. I won't move because there seem to be more job opportunities here than in the UK, plus I lack an incentive (like, I don't have a girlfriend or wife who got offered a job in Germany etc.)
   — Phlox_carolina






4. As an American, the expat tax pretty much dictates that I won’t ever move out of the country.
   — expresidentmasks


5. Holy shit this thread is depressing if you're American
   — NorINorAnyMan


6. I have 39 paid days a year for holidays and that doesn't get eaten away by sickness. Seriously, I struggle to think of an upside to moving to the US.
   — Burnsy2023